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Ideal Body Measurements for Men


I read somewhere that only women are insecure about their bodies and  that men do not try to achieve the ideal body measurements for men, but I remember when I was growing up in Jr High and High School having problems knowing who I was.  My Dad was about 6 foot and 200 pounds.  He played football as a linemen in a small high school.  I thought I too would play line.  I did not think about what a difference a high school that was at least 10 times as big would make.  I did not figure it our until I was doing lineman drills in high school with guys that were twice my size.  Now at 58 I love my 5"10'  165 pound body.  It is average and not great at anything, but it alows such flexibility in what I do.  I average lifting weights about 10 minutes a week which alows me to lift heavy boxes and other objects.  But I particularly love to run.  My favorite thing to do is grab my binoculars and head to the park to look for birds...  So when setting your goal to achieve the perfect body, think about function and what you want to be able to do as well as shape and % fat.

 Ideal Shape

The simple answer according to one source is that a mans chest circumference should be 10 inches larger than his waist circumference.



Here is the best answer I have gotten from a body builder who also has an excellent weight loss program online( Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle, which I used):


Steve Reeves for example, was known as one of the most symmetrical and aesthetically pleasing bodybuilders of all time, even though he was not “huge” by today’s standards.

Reeves wrote about ideal measurements frequently and was always striving for his idea of perfection in this regard (and came close to achieving his own personal ideal). One of his criteria for ideal proportions included having his arms, calves and neck measure the same.

Steve Reeves Measurements:

  • Arms: 18.5 inches
  • Calves: 18.5 inches
  • Neck: 18.5 inches
  • Thighs: 27 inches
  • Chest: 54 inches
  • Waist: 30 inches

In his “classic physique” book, Reeves said his formula for “ideal proportions” was as follows:

Muscle to bone ratios:

  • Arm size = 252% of wrist size
  • Calf size = 192% of ankle size
  • Neck Size = 79% of head size
  • Chest Size = 148% of pelvis size
  • Waist size = 86% of pelvis size
  • Thigh size = 175% of knee size

Steve Reeves’ height and weight chart for a bodybuilder (natural)

Height Ideal Weight Height Ideal Weight
5’5” 160lbs 6’0” 200lbs
5’6” 165lbs 6’1” 210lbs
5’7” 170lbs 6’2” 220lbs
5’8” 175lbs 6’3” 230lbs
5’9” 180lbs 6’4” 240lbs
5’10” 185lbs 6’5” 250lbs
5’11” 190lbs    

In the book Brawn, Stuart McRobert published the old “John McCallum formula for “challenging yet realistic” measurements for “hard gainers". His formula is based on wrist measurement and was also published in the book Super Squats:

John McCallum’s realistic measurement ideals for hard gainers

  1. 6.5 times your wrist gives chest girth
  2. 85% of the chest girth produces the hips
  3. Take 70% of the chest girth for the waist
  4. 53% of the chest gives the thigh girth
  5. The neck size is 37% of the chest
  6. 36% of the chest produces the upper arm girth
  7. The calves come out a little less at 34%
  8. The forearms get 29% of the chest measurement

Incidentally, McRobert’s book Brawn has an entire chapter called “expectations” which discusses the truth about measurement claims.

I find all these measurement ideals very interesting, but personally I take them with a grain of salt.

Be careful with some of the formulas for “ideal measurements”, because if they were based on steroid using and or pro bodybuilders, you may get discouraged by trying to pursue an impossible goal for a natural bodybuilder or the measurements of someone with a totally different bone structure than you have.

Measurements - especially arm measurements - are also frequently exaggerated. Twenty inch arms, for example, are rare and when you actually see them in person, you realize just how massive they really are. But somehow beginners and natural athletes get the idea in their head that bodybuilding success means 250 pounds and a 20 inch arm.

The truth is, a 17 to 18 inch arm on a ripped 175-180 pound physique with excellent balance, symmetry and proportion can look much larger than it really is – it’s an optical illusion of sorts.

Some of these guidelines for “ideal proportions” are the “Grecian” or “classical” ideals while others are ideals for bodybuilders. In either case, keep in mind they are subjective – they’re just someone else’s opinion of what is an ideal measurement. The only opinion that matters in the end is your own.

Train hard and expect success,

Tom Venuto Tom Venuto NSCA-CPT, CSCS
Lifetime NaturalBodybuilder



Tom Venuto now has at least three major progrmas.  These programs are aimed specifically at:

those that want to lose weight without losing muscle.......
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Measurements to Percent Fat

Want to find out what percent of your body is fat?

Body Fat Formula For Men


Step 1:   Multiply total body weight x 1.082, then add 94.42 = Result 1

Step 2:  Multiply waist measurement x 4.15.  Then subtract Step 1 from Step 2 = Lean Body Weight

Step 3: Subtract lean body weight from total body weight = Lean Body Mass

Step 4: Multiply Lean Body Mass x 100, then divide it by total body weight = Body Fat Percentage.


Fat Percentage Categories:

Fat                
Men 2-4%         Women 10-12%  
Athletes        
Men 6-13%       Women 14-20%  
Fitness           
Men 14-17%     Women 21-24%  
Acceptable    
Men 18-25%      Women 25-31% 
Obese           
Men 25%+          Women 32% +  




Ideal Body Measurements by Function

I started of this web page talking about how I enjoy running.  What do you like to do?   What do you want to be able to do?  What were you born to do?  Many years ago I read a great book which I can no longer find on Sports Selection.  It talked about how certain body shapes were better able to perform different functions. People with low center of gravities tend to do better at things like surfing.  Sprinters tend to be somewhat stocky.  Long distancerunners  have to be thin.  Basketball players tall, and gymnast short.  

Why are the best:  gymnast,wrestlers,and posibly knights short?  Strength is a function of cross area (distance squared) and weight a function of  volume (distance cubed).  It is pure physics.  That is why ants are so much stronger for their size than elephants.  I use pictures of those that play sports as examples of  ideal body types for funtion, but for our ancestors it was a matter of survival and depending on the environment and task at hand we needed (and still need) all of the different body types.




Ideal body measurements for men - what women like

Ideal Body Measurements for Men

What Women Like


If you ask women:  What are the ideal body measurements for men?   What will they say?  Being a man, I did not know so I went to the blogs to find out.  they would usually answer with the name of a movie star, rock star, or athlete.  Although the answers were not specific, they did give hints. for example the athletes were usually soccer players, tennis players, swimmers... not weight lifters or football linemen or tall basketball players.   These body types were not extremely tall nor did they have extremely big muscles.  

These answers from the blogs seem to confirm some of the research. According to  visual perception of male body attractiveness by Fan, Dai, Liu and Wu.  women prefer men with a volume to height  index of  17.6  liters per meter squared. (men thought 18.0 litters per meter squared would have been preferred.)  

These numbers did not mean much to me except that men think that women like heavier guys. Maybe the women are right, forget the numbers just look at the pictures.

But I am a guy and  don't listen so here are some more numbers. Women like men that are 1.1 times taller than themselves, women like men with shapes like an inverted triangle (chest bigger than waist) .  Now we are getting somewhere.  Both research and classic ideal measurements (think Michaelangelo's David) point to the golden rule of  1.6.  The ratio of  shoulders (measure at widest point usually half way between nipple and collar bone) to waist (for men measure between belly button and hip bone)  This 1.6 is about a 1.4 ratio of chest to waist which is easier to measure.  By the way, Steve reeves above was way too big with a 1.8 chest to waist ratio (54/30).  Muscle and Fitness suggests a 1.33 ratio.  I think that would make a good goal for most of us.  See what Muscle and Fitness suggests as ideal body measurements for men.


Based on what Muscle and Fitness Magazine says are ideal body measurements, I have come up with this chart to help you keep up with your goal of improving your body, if that is your goal:

Ideal Body Measurements for Men Chart


Baseball players have to be quick.




Here is a tall basketball player




Do you have a different opinion? This page has a place to voice those opinions:
Ideal Body Measurements for Women and Men




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